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		<title>By: Claire</title>
		<link>http://northerndoctor.com/2009/02/06/raging-across-the-blogosphere/#comment-504</link>
		<dc:creator>Claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/586562?src=rss&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Virus vaccines and children with asthma&lt;/a&gt; has recently (10 Feb) been reprinted at Medscape (registration needed, then it&#039;s free). It concludes that current evidence does not support a causal relationship between childhood immunisation and development of asthma &amp; atopy. 


&quot;Abstract

Purpose of Review: To describe what is currently known about the role of virus vaccines in the pathogenesis of asthma and atopy and summarize their role in the prevention of morbidity due to childhood asthma.

Recent Findings: The development of virus vaccines and their incorporation into infant and childhood immunization programmes over the last few decades of the twentieth century have been accompanied by a striking concomitant rise in the incidence of asthma and atopy. However, a causal relationship is not supported by the majority of observational studies. The role of childhood immunization against respiratory viruses in the reduction of morbidity from asthma is another important public health issue. Recent findings suggest that influenza is not strongly associated with exacerbations of asthma in children, despite recommendations that this group should be immunized against it.

Summary: Current evidence suggests that virus vaccination is well tolerated and does not lead to an increased incidence of asthma or atopy in children receiving vaccines. Debate continues regarding the place of respiratory virus vaccination in the therapeutic armamentarium for children with asthma. In the case of influenza, there appears to be an absence of harm, but benefit seems to be limited to younger children.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/586562?src=rss" rel="nofollow">Virus vaccines and children with asthma</a> has recently (10 Feb) been reprinted at Medscape (registration needed, then it&#8217;s free). It concludes that current evidence does not support a causal relationship between childhood immunisation and development of asthma &amp; atopy. </p>
<p>&#8220;Abstract</p>
<p>Purpose of Review: To describe what is currently known about the role of virus vaccines in the pathogenesis of asthma and atopy and summarize their role in the prevention of morbidity due to childhood asthma.</p>
<p>Recent Findings: The development of virus vaccines and their incorporation into infant and childhood immunization programmes over the last few decades of the twentieth century have been accompanied by a striking concomitant rise in the incidence of asthma and atopy. However, a causal relationship is not supported by the majority of observational studies. The role of childhood immunization against respiratory viruses in the reduction of morbidity from asthma is another important public health issue. Recent findings suggest that influenza is not strongly associated with exacerbations of asthma in children, despite recommendations that this group should be immunized against it.</p>
<p>Summary: Current evidence suggests that virus vaccination is well tolerated and does not lead to an increased incidence of asthma or atopy in children receiving vaccines. Debate continues regarding the place of respiratory virus vaccination in the therapeutic armamentarium for children with asthma. In the case of influenza, there appears to be an absence of harm, but benefit seems to be limited to younger children.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Legal Chill - The Blogosphere responds &#171; The Witch Doctor</title>
		<link>http://northerndoctor.com/2009/02/06/raging-across-the-blogosphere/#comment-496</link>
		<dc:creator>Legal Chill - The Blogosphere responds &#171; The Witch Doctor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Northern Doctor “debated about blogging on this issue because there is already reams of comments on this but when reading them I have to suppress my concern that my children could get measles (because no vaccine is 100%) as a consequence of the actions of Jeni et al. So on the basis of that worrying fact I will add my voice to the clamour. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Northern Doctor “debated about blogging on this issue because there is already reams of comments on this but when reading them I have to suppress my concern that my children could get measles (because no vaccine is 100%) as a consequence of the actions of Jeni et al. So on the basis of that worrying fact I will add my voice to the clamour. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Measles - spot the worrying trend (Updated) &#171; Dr Aust&#8217;s Spleen</title>
		<link>http://northerndoctor.com/2009/02/06/raging-across-the-blogosphere/#comment-495</link>
		<dc:creator>Measles - spot the worrying trend (Updated) &#171; Dr Aust&#8217;s Spleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] bloggers and the medical bloggers (like my e-friends Dr Crippen, Dr Grumble the Jobbing Doctor and Euan the Northern Doctor) in such unanimous fashion. Indeed, it seems like Dr Aust is probably the only BadScience blogger [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] bloggers and the medical bloggers (like my e-friends Dr Crippen, Dr Grumble the Jobbing Doctor and Euan the Northern Doctor) in such unanimous fashion. Indeed, it seems like Dr Aust is probably the only BadScience blogger [...]</p>
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		<title>By: al capone junior</title>
		<link>http://northerndoctor.com/2009/02/06/raging-across-the-blogosphere/#comment-492</link>
		<dc:creator>al capone junior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 22:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for joining the many bloggers who have come to the aid of Ben Goldacre in getting this nonsense exposed for what it is and not letting lawyers dictate what&#039;s debated and what&#039;s not. 

al</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for joining the many bloggers who have come to the aid of Ben Goldacre in getting this nonsense exposed for what it is and not letting lawyers dictate what&#8217;s debated and what&#8217;s not. </p>
<p>al</p>
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		<title>By: northerndoctor</title>
		<link>http://northerndoctor.com/2009/02/06/raging-across-the-blogosphere/#comment-489</link>
		<dc:creator>northerndoctor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 20:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ta. Yes, I am inclined to agree and it would be a much more interesting discussion. There ain&#039;t much to suggest she is anything but very &#039;ill informed&#039;.

Everyone has picked up on the measles graph for 2008 but I am waiting for the HPA Jan 09 figures with interest. The &lt;a href=&quot;http://northerndoctor.com/2009/01/09/measles-oop-north/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;previous numbers&lt;/a&gt; suggested measles might have peaked in London in May 08 and have been declining since then. It was still heading up oop north but I am hoping that will be some kind of lag effect and it will settle v soon. The first couple of months of 2009 may be revealing.

Fingers crossed the net effect of all this will be to push vaccines up and measles down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ta. Yes, I am inclined to agree and it would be a much more interesting discussion. There ain&#8217;t much to suggest she is anything but very &#8216;ill informed&#8217;.</p>
<p>Everyone has picked up on the measles graph for 2008 but I am waiting for the HPA Jan 09 figures with interest. The <a href="http://northerndoctor.com/2009/01/09/measles-oop-north/" rel="nofollow">previous numbers</a> suggested measles might have peaked in London in May 08 and have been declining since then. It was still heading up oop north but I am hoping that will be some kind of lag effect and it will settle v soon. The first couple of months of 2009 may be revealing.</p>
<p>Fingers crossed the net effect of all this will be to push vaccines up and measles down.</p>
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		<title>By: dvnutrix</title>
		<link>http://northerndoctor.com/2009/02/06/raging-across-the-blogosphere/#comment-486</link>
		<dc:creator>dvnutrix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 16:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May I say how much I enjoyed the Bus illustration of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?src=rss&amp;id=10312&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jeni Barnett meme&lt;/a&gt;?

Yes, the issue of autonomy v. justice is fascinating and I might have been more sympathetic, albeit still convinced of her wrong-headedness on matters of fact, had she been conflicted because of that. But, as you say, she wasn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I say how much I enjoyed the Bus illustration of the <a href="http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?src=rss&amp;id=10312" rel="nofollow">Jeni Barnett meme</a>?</p>
<p>Yes, the issue of autonomy v. justice is fascinating and I might have been more sympathetic, albeit still convinced of her wrong-headedness on matters of fact, had she been conflicted because of that. But, as you say, she wasn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeni Barnett and the LBC Radio MMR Vaccine Segment: Updated with links of blog coverage &#171; Holford Watch: Patrick Holford, nutritionism and bad science</title>
		<link>http://northerndoctor.com/2009/02/06/raging-across-the-blogosphere/#comment-485</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeni Barnett and the LBC Radio MMR Vaccine Segment: Updated with links of blog coverage &#171; Holford Watch: Patrick Holford, nutritionism and bad science</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 16:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Raging across the blogosphere &#171; Northern Doctor  // February 7, 2009 at 5:35 pm [...]</description>
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